(edit title) Ex-wife wants to move back to Sweden with the kids Should I move with them? Options

[Martin565]

Certainly for our kids, even though we are together, same house etc.. because we are both registered as parents and guardian's, then everything requires two signatures. If ... (show full quote)

Certainly for our kids, even though we are together, same house etc.. because we are both registered as parents and guardian's, then everything requires two signatures. If a child is off sick and you phone it in on the automated system, both get texts saying so. For school reports before covid these were face to face, twice yearly, and at our school the teachers would do it twice if split parents couldn't cope with both attending together, the child comes first, not arsey parents. ... (hide full quote)

Sweden has a high divorce rate

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Divorce!!!

People still get married???

[*Guest*]

Sweden has a high divorce rate

Kind of slightly lateral, but our local hall was 60 yrs old a couple of years ago. We dug up lots of then and now facts. Percentage wise more people get married now, than did 60 years ago. Given how much society changes, folk travel, change jobs etc.. it is not surprising divorce rate is also higher.

But it's not as high here as many other places. https://www.statista.com/statistics/612207/...-100-marriages/

[Martin565]

Kind of slightly lateral, but our local hall was 60 yrs old a couple of years ago. We dug up lots of then and now facts. Percentage wise more people get married now, than did ... (show full quote)

Kind of slightly lateral, but our local hall was 60 yrs old a couple of years ago. We dug up lots of then and now facts. Percentage wise more people get married now, than did 60 years ago. Given how much society changes, folk travel, change jobs etc.. it is not surprising divorce rate is also higher.

But it's not as high here as many other places. https://www.statista.com/statistics/612207/...-100-marriages/ ... (hide full quote)

Probably because same sex marriage wasnt allowed then

[Gamla Hälsingebock]

Probably because same sex marriage wasnt allowed then

X10

[ChocOwl]

Sweden has a high divorce rate

I see that as a positive sign -- people do not stay in shitty relationships.
Countries with a lower divorce rate do not necessarily have a higher rate of healthy relationships. For example, in Sweden in say 1900 a woman would risk losing custody of her children if she divorced, so there was pressure to stay in an unhealthy relationship even if she was subject to violence or whatever.

[Martin565]

[Grommet]

But it's not as high here as many other places. https://www.statista.com/statistics/612207/...-100-marriages/

Care to actually back-up what you are saying? In the link you apparently use for that purpose, you can't see a thing. My guess is you are up to your usual non-sense.

People get divorced more nowadays for many reasons. One of them, especially in MeatHeadia, is that there are more, spoiled, entitled selfish people than ever before, who are incapable of meeting anyone halfway, when things go tits up.

Those who just can't handle that the world does not revolve for them alone.

[*Guest*]

Care to actually back-up what you are saying? In the link you apparently use for that purpose, you can't see a thing. My guess is you are up to your usual non-sense.People ... (show full quote)

Care to actually back-up what you are saying? In the link you apparently use for that purpose, you can't see a thing. My guess is you are up to your usual non-sense.

People get divorced more nowadays for many reasons. One of them, especially in MeatHeadia, is that there are more, spoiled, entitled selfish people than ever before, who are incapable of meeting anyone halfway, when things go tits up.

Those who just can't handle that the world does not revolve for them alone. ... (hide full quote)

I don't care. I wasn't trying to make any point. It's just information.

[Grommet]

I don't care. I wasn't trying to make any point. It's just information.

Indeed. Bullshitters rarely care about the accuracy of what they say.

Not the first time you include useless links, why bother? Are you some kind of bot?

Next time you come here to "not make any point", why not just shut up?

[*Guest*]

Indeed. Bullshitters rarely care about the accuracy of what they say.Not the first time you include useless links, why bother? Are you some kind of bot?Next time you come here ... (show full quote)

Indeed. Bullshitters rarely care about the accuracy of what they say.

Not the first time you include useless links, why bother? Are you some kind of bot?

Next time you come here to "not make any point", why not just shut up? ... (hide full quote)

Still jealous I see. You so wish you were in sweden, why else would you keep ranting like a love sick teenager pretending you hate sweden.

[Grommet]

Still jealous I see. You so wish you were in sweden, why else would you keep ranting like a love sick teenager pretending you hate sweden.

Deflecting again, when backed into a corner. Shocking.

You, and the other UK twats here, just change the subject when you are bested.
Pathetic. No wonder you couldn't handle your own country. You'd be getting your pans knocked in constantly.

[Martin565]

Deflecting again, when backed into a corner. Shocking.You, and the other UK twats here, just change the subject when you are bested.Pathetic. No wonder you couldn't handle ... (show full quote)

Deflecting again, when backed into a corner. Shocking.

You, and the other UK twats here, just change the subject when you are bested.
Pathetic. No wonder you couldn't handle your own country. You'd be getting your pans knocked in constantly. ... (hide full quote)

Who are the U.K. twats, name names

[kilgore]

Hi all,I am new to this forum which I found whilst I was doing some online research on my situation. I signed up to start this thread, as I thought some kind forum members cou ... (show full quote)

Hi all,

I am new to this forum which I found whilst I was doing some online research on my situation. I signed up to start this thread, as I thought some kind forum members could give me advice.

I am a dual citizen (UK/ German) currently living in Switzerland. I separated from my Swedish wife of 10 years around a year ago, and we are due to start divorce proceedings soon. We will be divorcing in Sweden as it is really expensive in Switzerland. We have three kids (3, 6, and 10) who have all been born and raised in Switzerland. We share the custody of the kids 50/50. As a family, we have never lived in Sweden, although we have spent holidays and summers there over the years. The kids are Swedish nationals and speak Swedish with their mother, although their schooling has been in German.

I have lost my job as a result of the Covid pandemic, and I am in the process of job hunting, although the job market is not too promising at the moment. I have been unemployed for 6 months now, but thankfully the unemployment insurance system here is amazing so I will get paid a decent monthly "salary" until the end of 2021. My ex-wife has a fantastic job here and she makes multiples of what I used to earn before losing my job.

Recently, my ex-wife told me she is thinking to move to Sweden with the kids. She has been wanting to move back home for years now, but I have always been adamant that I don't want to move to Sweden. She says that the kids will have access to better and cheaper education in Sweden, and that given that I am now unemployed in Switzerland, it makes more sense for everyone to leave this country at this stage.

I am freaking out. I love my kids and I don't want to leave them. I don't even know where else I could go, as I don't have any family left or any real ties to my home countries. I am considering whether moving to Sweden with them could make sense, but I am concerned as 1) I don't speak the language, 2) my employment opportunities would be pretty bad, 3) I am not a fan of the Swedish mindset/ lagom/ jantelagen and all that jazz.

I have booked an appointment with a layer of course, but I wanted to hear the opinions of other expats who live in Sweden. Do you think it would be a mad idea for me to move to Sweden with my ex and my kids? Do you think I have any legal grounds to fight her decision?

Thank you for any advice. ... (hide full quote)

Moving to a new country is always a challenge, but please be mindful that Sweden is one of the most challenging places to start a new life in.
Most people in Sweden don't do much outside work. Building a social circle in Sweden can take many years, and even so don't expect frequent interaction besides going out for a drink once in a while on the weekend. You better enjoy sports and nature or have plenty hobbies you can enjoy on your own.

[*Guest*]

Most people in Sweden don't do much outside work... You better enjoy sports and nature or have plenty hobbies you can enjoy on your own.

They do go out, doing all the things you list.

They haven't been sat around for 20, 30, 40years waiting for an immigrant to arrive as their new best buddy. Like most adults they likely have too little time as it is (non covid year).