(edit title) Swedish university entrance for British nationals Admission rules, getting funding, TEFL, etc. Options

[Janie]

My friend completed 2 years of a religious studies degree in the UK. In the third year he had to drop out due to ill health which required him to go back home for medical treatment. Because he had completed 2 years worth of credits, he got a university diploma. He only got third class marks though due to his ill health. He has now recovered and wants to complete his degree in Sweden, preferably Stockholm. So before he looks into it officially, he wants me to ask a few questions on here:

1. He wants to do his third year in a different subject, preferably TEFL. Is that allowed in Sweden, or do all your years have to be in the same subject?

2.Will the fact that he only got third class marks count against him? He can of course get a doctors note to explain why his marks were bad (he was undergoing cancer treatment.)

3. Do any swedish unis teach undergrad degrees in English or will he have to do the tisus b first?

4. Can british students get funding in sweden?

He wanted me to ask a few other things too, but I can't remeber what now, so I will have to ask him and post back again later.

[Janie]

I've remember ed one of the other things. The bloke in question also did a 2 year dental hygeine degree, which he completed. He wants to know if it would be easy for a dental hygeinist to get a job in sweden.

[Puffin]

My friend completed 2 years of a religious studies degree in the UK. In the third year he had to drop out due to ill health which required him to go back home for medical tre ... (show full quote)

My friend completed 2 years of a religious studies degree in the UK. In the third year he had to drop out due to ill health which required him to go back home for medical treatment. Because he had completed 2 years worth of credits, he got a university diploma. He only got third class marks though due to his ill health. He has now recovered and wants to complete his degree in Sweden, preferably Stockholm. So before he looks into it officially, he wants me to ask a few questions on here:

1. He wants to do his third year in a different subject, preferably TEFL. Is that allowed in Sweden, or do all your years have to be in the same subject? ... (hide full quote)

There is a minimum number of credits - usually 90hp (18 months full time of 60 university weeks) that you have to have in your main degree subject. However you need to have the right progression - usually a minimum of 30p from each level - so 30p level A, 30p level B and 30p level C which is final year BA level.

If he wants a BA he would likely have to 18 months (3 terms) in his new subject as I doubt if he has any 3rd year courses or a dissertation which are requirements for a BA degree if he left after 2 years.

I am not sure of any specifically TEFL degrees in Sweden - but of course taking any English courses and especially those aimed at Swedes in teacher training will give a similar background.

After admission to the degree in Sweden he will have to apply for the previous courses to be recognised - it is up to each university if you have not completed your degree - but usually there is no problem if you have transcripts and the programme/reading lists.

What he will end up with is a degree in English with a minor in RS

2.Will the fact that he only got third class marks count against him? He can of course get a doctors note to explain why his marks were bad (he was undergoing cancer treatment.)

No - the Swedish grading is traditionally very flat - with just pass (G) and distinction (VG) . Some Universities have started to go over to the ECTS system although I heard on the grapvine that ECTS may be abolished. Usually it is the number of points that is more important.

3. Do any swedish unis teach undergrad degrees in English or will he have to do the tisus b first?

English is always taught in English - otherwise there are only a small number of Universities - usually the smaller undergraduate colleges which offer full degrees in English - with a few exceptions

4. Can british students get funding in sweden?

The course is free - but you qualify for student grants and loans first after 2 years of residence

I've remember ed one of the other things. The bloke in question also did a 2 year dental hygeine degree, which he completed. He wants to know if it would be easy for a dental hygeinist to get a job in sweden.

He will need a Swedish licence to practice from Socialstyrelsen - details (in English) here http://www.socialstyrelsen.se/en/Licensing/Euleginfoeng.htm

In order to get a job fluent Swedish will also be necessary

Hope this helps

[Janie]

Thanks for the response!

He has 240 religious studies credits if I remember rightly. So if he did a further 18 months in English, would he still get an English major? Also, are you sure that English undergrad degrees are taught in English? We has a look at Stockholm Uni's website and got the impression all undergrad degrees are taught in Swedish?

Also, is there much demand for English teachers in Sweden at the moment?

[kaze]

No - the Swedish grading is traditionally very flat - with just pass (G) and distinction (VG) . Some Universities have started to go over to the ECTS system although I heard on the grapvine that ECTS may be abolished. Usually it is the number of points that is more important.

Oh? Got anything on this?
Its not working? This is Europe or just the Swedes dropping out? Bologna seemed to be the way forward and most countries have torn apart their education systems to meet it...

[Janie]

Also, do you know how we can find a list of all of the English undergrad degrees taught in English, in Sweden? We've looked on studyinsweden.se but they only seem to list master's degrees.

[Bender B Rodriquez]

. Oh? Got anything on this?. Its not working? This is Europe or just the Swedes dropping out? Bologna seemed to be the way forward and most countries have torn apart their education systems to meet it...

It depends where you study but most technical universities and business schools apply the ECTS scale (and the Bologna bachelor/master system) nowadays. Regular unis should too, but they are always a bit after the rest of the world...

[Kibiri]

Puffin the expert's list: http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=18138

[Puffin]

. Oh? Got anything on this?. Its not working? This is Europe or just the Swedes dropping out? Bologna seemed to be the way forward and most countries have torn apart their education systems to meet it...

It depends where you study but most technical universities and business schools apply the ECTS scale (and the Bologna bachelor/master system) nowadays. Regular unis should too ... (show full quote)

It depends where you study but most technical universities and business schools apply the ECTS scale (and the Bologna bachelor/master system) nowadays. Regular unis should too, but they are always a bit after the rest of the world... ... (hide full quote)

I heard something about this from a studierektor in Uppsala last week - he seemed to think that there would be a new decision from the EU on this in the autumn - if was sort of a passing comment as younger colleagues were worried about grade consistency under ECTS (can you really be sure that one teachers D is not another's C). He just said not to get worked up as they may no longer be an issue. I can't find out any more at the moment - but perhaps there will be more information when we have a teacher training day in June. Or perhaps it's just a rumour

Not all Universities have implemented ECTS - many faculties in Uppsala are using them as "additional information" - ie you get both a traditional grade and an ECTS grade

[Mister E]

As far as ECTS goes, I felt pretty bad when my Swedish grades were converted to the ECTS grading scale. I had a period that was divided into five subject areas with the following grades: VG, VG, G, G, G. So my grade for that period was translated to a C under the ECTS system.

[Janie]

Thanks for the list. Do you know if Stockholm uni does enough short courses in English to make up the rest of the credits? I can't find out from the website which courses are actually taught in English and they don't seem to respond to emails.

[kaze]

I heard something about this from a studierektor in Uppsala last week - he seemed to think that there would be a new decision from the EU on this in the autumn - if was sort o ... (show full quote)

I heard something about this from a studierektor in Uppsala last week - he seemed to think that there would be a new decision from the EU on this in the autumn - if was sort of a passing comment as younger colleagues were worried about grade consistency under ECTS (can you really be sure that one teachers D is not another's C). He just said not to get worked up as they may no longer be an issue. I can't find out any more at the moment - but perhaps there will be more information when we have a teacher training day in June. Or perhaps it's just a rumour

Not all Universities have implemented ECTS - many faculties in Uppsala are using them as "additional information" - ie you get both a traditional grade and an ECTS grade ... (hide full quote)

Thats definatly true on different teachers giving different grades- I've some teachers for whom a A is quite the open possibility if you do well but then there's others for whom it is is the great nigh-on-unreachable upper ceiling, like getting over 80% or so in the UK- if you get that then you're the king.
But then...thats true across all grading systems really.

I know I get ECTS grades and Swedish ones but I fully plan to stick to the Swedish one. In the UK they're being very harsh with ECTS and in many places only a A makes a 1st- though the better translation would be A as upper 1st and B as upper 2,1/lower 1st, etc...
A VG (i.e. top rank) looks a lot better than a B or C average. Especially since the latter could be a 2,2 (i.e. no job for you)

[Puffin]

Some places introduced ECTS as relative grades - ie top 10% of students get A, next 25% B etc etc - a similar method to the old A level grades

However in Sweden they use them in conjucntion with the course goals - so in theory all could get A or F

[Janie]

OK, Stockholm uni finally replied to our emails and say that the only course he can take is political science I. But when we try and apply, we get this page:https://www.studera.nu/aw/freeTextSearchResult.do
what does it mean?
Help us quickly someone, tomorrow is the deadline for applications!

oh ok, it won't take you to the page. But here is some of what it says:

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