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Sweden's corona response

Is the country making the right choice?

Gimp View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 01:54 AM Post #1981
Location: Pakistan Joined: 27.Jan.2020

Gamla Hälsingebock View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 03:27 AM Post #1982
Joined: 21.Dec.2006	https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704 A new virus is brewing in China...where else...they seem to be a breeding ground for all that is nasty in this world lately... What if this one gets "out" too, a double whammy from Hell... Does anybody here know of a (new illness) pandemic originating in the Western world and going east to China???

Gimp View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 04:16 AM Post #1983
Location: Pakistan Joined: 27.Jan.2020	QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 1.Jul.2020, 04:27 AM) https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704A new virus is brewing in China...where else...they seem to be a breeding ground for all that is nasty in this world lately...What if t ... (show full quote) https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704 A new virus is brewing in China...where else...they seem to be a breeding ground for all that is nasty in this world lately... What if this one gets "out" too, a double whammy from Hell... Does anybody here know of a (new illness) pandemic originating in the Western world and going east to China??? ... (hide full quote) Although they have some really great advancements in environmental cleanup it is still very polluted. I would guess this can contribute to the creation of viruses... where the natural world and all that pollution intermingle... wild new illnesses can be created/ carried/ transmitted. How ?new? are you talking? Although China allowed it, there have been many US factories operating in China and contributing vastly to the pollution. And then potentially obesity by way of McDonalds and KFC

skogsbo View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 06:33 AM Post #1984
Joined: 20.Sep.2011	QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 1.Jul.2020, 03:27 AM) https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704A new virus is brewing in China...where else...they seem to be a breeding ground for all that is nasty in this world lately...What if t ... (show full quote) https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704 A new virus is brewing in China...where else...they seem to be a breeding ground for all that is nasty in this world lately... What if this one gets "out" too, a double whammy from Hell... Does anybody here know of a (new illness) pandemic originating in the Western world and going east to China??? ... (hide full quote) Swine flu is thought to originate in Mexico. Aids and Ebola in Africa. Zika virus ? Don't know. The western anti vaxers needlessly cause almost unheard of conditions to proliferate again.

cootje1976 View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 08:30 AM Post #1985
Location: Europe Joined: 3.May.2012	QUOTE (SeventhGuest @ 30.Jun.2020, 10:59 PM) https://www.thelocal.se/20200630/coughs-and...ring-face-masksForeign residents in Sweden have told The Local how they have faced xenophobic abuse for wearing face masks and as ... (show full quote) https://www.thelocal.se/20200630/coughs-and...ring-face-masks Foreign residents in Sweden have told The Local how they have faced xenophobic abuse for wearing face masks and asking people to keep their distance in public places. Everyone should be allowed to wear a slave mask. I would even not intervene if someone wants to wear a plastic bad over his head or crawl on all fours if he thinks that this would prevent a virus to spread. But I am allowed to go anywhere. Without something in my face. Without vaccination (if there would be one in the future). And even as a guest. As long as I stick to the official rules. She began doing this in situations where it's not possible to ensure physical distance, in line with World Health Organisation (WHO) recommendations... The WHO does not recommend face masks. And even if the WHO or the government would do so, the effect of a face mask is more bad than good: You breathe in your own CO2, you get less oxygen. You collect bacteria unter your mask, your skin gets more and more moisturized, it gets more likely that pimples can occur, and worst of all, then you strip-off the mask from time to time, it becomes a virus slingshot. "I asked him to move behind the safe line, but he refused and starts laughing and calling me an idiot..." "She says the man then called her an "idiot", a "clown",..." I would never call someone who is not using her own mind an idiot or a clown or anything similar or laugh about people, but I think the same. Even further: The "keep a distance" people are becoming zombies. They point at everyone who is NOT wearing a mask, call them a "risk" although they should just stay home if they have symptoms (like with every cold or flu) and that's really silly, dishonest and insincerely. "...then I have had enough and I said that Sweden is the country full of idiots because they refuse to keep distance. The guy at the checkout shouts at me, not at the man, and I say I'm not coming back [to the shop] if that's the way they treat people that try to keep distance. The guy at the till shouts and says 'you are not welcome here'." Yep. Wouldn't be welcome in my store either. My shops wouldn't need customers who are extremely sensitive and afraid about other people. This is hypocrisy. "I have been living here for thirteen years, I have the Swedish nationality and for the first time I'm seriously considering leaving the country," she told The Local. Then leave the country and go to Germany. That's the country for zombies now and the government totally supports you! Or she could also move to Spain, France, Switzerland or Austria. They all change common sense and civic rights against tracing apps, local lockdowns, mass testing, manual contact tracing with staff from local health authorities. And they continue to use the total unreliable PCR test as a basis for all their silly measures: Locking 700 people into their own house block with police force? No problem. Testing on Covid-19 although the test reacts on corona in animals in a meat processing factory? No problem, we will put the whole district under lockdown (again). Yes, go there and report to THE LOCAL how cool that is. ... (hide full quote)

Gimp View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 03:40 PM Post #1986
Location: Pakistan Joined: 27.Jan.2020

Grommet View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 06:30 PM Post #1987
Joined: 10.May.2020	QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 1.Jul.2020, 09:30 AM) +1 I mean...someone had to say it.

cootje1976 View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 07:52 PM Post #1988
Location: Europe Joined: 3.May.2012	Pure Vic... Common sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJqSMrswPy4

Gamla Hälsingebock View Member Profile	1.Jul.2020, 09:14 PM Post #1989
Joined: 21.Dec.2006	It has become apparent to me now that one very BIG mistake in the USA has been to downplay the virus and its effect on the younger population...They have openly rebelled against regulations due to this and have have DEMANDED that lockdown measures be removed, it seems they got their way and now there is talk about slowing the return to normal and to keep or reinstate lockdowns that were lifted... There are now predictions of 100,000 news cases a day!!! It would have been better to withhold that information... In my area we have had the highest rate of complaints concerning lockdown rules being ignored... I'd rather be in Sweden...

Grommet View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 04:36 AM Post #1990
Joined: 10.May.2020	QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 1.Jul.2020, 08:52 PM) Pure Vic.... Common sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJqSMrswPy4 Wow, that poor old Vic has to break it down into such basics kinda seems to indicate Americans are quite stupid. But then that was already clear watching them cheer the "successes" of Trump as he MAGAs his way through the pandemic.

Grommet View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 04:39 AM Post #1991
Joined: 10.May.2020	QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 1.Jul.2020, 10:14 PM) It has become apparent to me now that one very BIG mistake in the USA has been to downplay the virus and its effect on the younger population...They have openly rebelled again ... (show full quote) It has become apparent to me now that one very BIG mistake in the USA has been to downplay the virus and its effect on the younger population...They have openly rebelled against regulations due to this and have have DEMANDED that lockdown measures be removed, it seems they got their way and now there is talk about slowing the return to normal and to keep or reinstate lockdowns that were lifted... There are now predictions of 100,000 news cases a day!!! It would have been better to withhold that information... In my area we have had the highest rate of complaints concerning lockdown rules being ignored... I'd rather be in Sweden... ... (hide full quote) And who down-played the virus? Trump! Don't worry man, he's got your back. Just sit back and reflect how smart you have been to vote for him, and enjoy the continuing saga of "MAGA"! You truly deserve it!

cootje1976 View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 08:01 AM Post #1992
Location: Europe Joined: 3.May.2012	QUOTE (Grommet @ 2.Jul.2020, 04:36 AM) Wow, that poor old Vic has to break it down into such basics kinda seems to indicate Americans are quite stupid.But then that was already clear watching them cheer the "s ... (show full quote) Wow, that poor old Vic has to break it down into such basics kinda seems to indicate Americans are quite stupid. But then that was already clear watching them cheer the "successes" of Trump as he MAGAs his way through the pandemic. ... (hide full quote) Yes, especially the seatbelt and airbag comparison was quite interesting, hehhe.

Grommet View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 09:40 AM Post #1993
Joined: 10.May.2020	QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 2.Jul.2020, 09:01 AM) Yes, especially the seatbelt and airbag comparison was quite interesting, hehhe. Haha, ya, and the thermometer bit too. Brilliant. Did you know, high-school students don't know anything until they take the exam. And then there is Tegnell, Sweden's international man of mystery, stating only more cases because of more testing. It makes me wonder if he understands what they are testing, and why they are doing it. Not so brilliant. Reminded me of Trump.

Grommet View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 09:45 AM Post #1994
Joined: 10.May.2020	QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 23.Apr.2020, 07:29 AM) Tegnell is a saint compared these guys...Fauci predicted a pandemic and it happened how did he know...Did he cause it!!! https://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=97400 From Trump supporter. Who could have guessed? Looks like they have a long way to go before MAGA even begins!

Gamla Hälsingebock View Member Profile	2.Jul.2020, 10:55 PM Post #1995
Joined: 21.Dec.2006	https://news.yahoo.com/sen-scott-covid-19-s...-120037316.html People wonder why we cannot stop this virus from spreading and infecting more people... I think this is a classic example of why it is out of control!!!

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