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post 19.Jan.2009, 09:08 PM
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Hello and sorry if this has been discussed...
I have moved to Stockholm to study at one of the universities. I speak english (for now). I have had a lot of trouble getting straight answers from the schools, the government and studera nu. Also any information I get differs with the next person I ask. I have been back and forth from schools to studera nu to websites etc. I feel I am re-inventing the wheel so to speak. So...Is there English taught undergraduate classes taught and how do I get in? Is there an easy route? By undergrad I mean that I have two years of college under my belt. Thank you..Any help is appreciated. Jason
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Mister E
post 19.Jan.2009, 09:37 PM
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Location: Gävle
Joined: 12.May.2007

Yes, there are universities in Sweden that offer undergrad programs taught in English. What do you want to study? Where are you from?
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Furu
post 19.Jan.2009, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Jason1)
Hello and sorry if this has been discussed...
I have moved to Stockholm to study at one of the universities. I speak english (for now). I have had a lot of trouble getting straight answers from the schools, the government and studera nu. Also any information I get differs with the next person I ask. I have been back and forth from schools to studera nu to websites etc. I feel I am re-inventing the wheel so to speak. So...Is there English taught undergraduate classes taught and how do I get in? Is there an easy route? By undergrad I mean that I have two years of college under my belt. Thank you..Any help is appreciated. Jason


Firstly this is how it works in Sweden so get used to it.

Most universities offer a Swedish foundation course for 18 months which will also allow you to pick any degree in Swedish Language.

Very few universities offer English language taught University degrees in Sweden. Most of them are at Post Graduate level.

good luck
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Hubris
post 19.Jan.2009, 11:25 PM
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Location: Not in Sweden
Joined: 10.Sep.2008

Perhaps you could post some background.

How did you manage to move to Stockholm with the intent to study at university, without knowing whether any programs are taught in English?

What are you wanting to study? When asking "is there university programs taught in English", it almost sounds like you don't care what the program is...but I assume you want to continue with whatever you started in your first 2 years of college.

My general understanding of the process is that you submit an application to the university for the particular program or programs (one application can be for multiple things) with the supporting paperwork, and you wait to see if you're approved. Perhaps others could respond as to whether there is an 'easy route' to applying or being accepted.
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Puffin
post 20.Jan.2009, 12:02 AM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

The reason that you are having trouble is that the question is not as simple as it may appear to you as in Sweden you can opt to either study a whole degree programme or single courses of 4-5 weeks that can be counted towards a degree programme.

So while may universities offer a number of single courses usually up to 1 year in total- often put on for the benefit of exchange students - there are very few universities that offer complete bachelor degree programmes taught soley in English and most of these are IT or English degrees.

The schools that offer most programmes taught in English are Dalarna; Jönköping and Malmö

Blekinge
http://www.bth.se/eng/edu.nsf/pages/undergraduate-studies

Dalarna
http://www.du.se/Templates/EducationListin...;epslanguage=EN

Gothenburg - IT only
http://www.itufak.gu.se/english/education/programmes/

Jönköping
http://www.ihh.hj.se/doc/1602

Malmö
http://www.edu.mah.se/katalog/program/grund/inenglishonly

Mälardalen
http://www.mdh.se/education/international_...rograms_Courses

Umeå
http://www.utbildningar.umu.se/pluto/porta...glishProgrammes

Växjö
http://194.47.65.95/public/ViewProgramOcc...092&Lang=En


If you are interested in studying at any of this Universities it will be up to the admissions team what sort of credit you get for previous studies. Usually only previous subjects studied with a major are counted towards a BA/BSc in Sweden and some schools will only credit prior study that covers the same areas as their own courses.
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kaze
post 20.Jan.2009, 12:53 AM
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Joined: 22.Mar.2008

What Puffin says.
And I'd also echo the questions about where you're from and how you can do this.
With what Puffin says though you could theoretically do a degree in these exchange student courses even if it means you get a odd mix (i.e. 1 year of French, 1 year of IT and 1 year of politics...)
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Puffin
post 20.Jan.2009, 08:22 AM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

It's pretty tough as at most universtities you need a minimum of 90 out of 180 points in your major/degree subject showing a progression from A-C courses with a 15 point dissertation including viva.

It is getting these 90 points with the progression A-C within a single subject which is the tough bit if you don't have Swedish. Getting the rest of your points is usually straightforward though if you are prepared to take a mix of courses
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Furu
post 20.Jan.2009, 12:43 PM
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Joined: 16.Jan.2008

QUOTE (Jason1)
Hello and sorry if this has been discussed...
I have moved to Stockholm to study at one of the universities. I speak english (for now). I have had a lot of trouble getting straight answers from the schools, the government and studera nu. Also any information I get differs with the next person I ask. I have been back and forth from schools to studera nu to websites etc. I feel I am re-inventing the wheel so to speak. So...Is there English taught undergraduate classes taught and how do I get in? Is there an easy route? By undergrad I mean that I have two years of college under my belt. Thank you..Any help is appreciated. Jason


in follow up to other responses you select these universities on studera web site and apply after listing your priorities.

you get accepted or not is a second question.

based on your country of origin or your first two years of studies the application requirements change.

i am not saying Sweden is racist but they look at education obtain in a different way if you are coming from pakistan and nigeria and even if you are in Sweden makes no exception only your deadlines to apply will change.

More over TOEFL requirements will also change depending on where you graduated from and you can only come on Exchange if you are in a partner university with ERASMUS and most of the time it only applies to EU universities.

good luck
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Puffin
post 20.Jan.2009, 02:27 PM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (Furu)
based on your country of origin or your first two years of studies the application requirements change.


What exactly do you mean by this? The requirement for applications to bachelor programmes pretty much follow the rules of HSV/VHS as stated on their websites.

When it comes to previous study this is a whole different ball game and is not related to nationality - often Swedes are not able to get prior courses acredited at other Universities.
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Furu
post 20.Jan.2009, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (Puffin)
What exactly do you mean by this? The requirement for applications to bachelor programmes pretty much follow the rules of HSV/VHS as stated on their websites.

When it comes to previous study this is a whole different ball game and is not related to nationality - often Swedes are not able to get prior courses acredited at other Universities.


Pakistan & some other countries need to follow specific procedures on transcripts
TOEFL if coming from Non English speaking countries
USA/Canada must send official transcripts directly from issuing institution
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Puffin
post 21.Jan.2009, 12:24 AM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (Furu)
Pakistan & some other countries need to follow specific procedures on transcripts
TOEFL if coming from Non English speaking countries
USA/Canada must send official transcripts directly from issuing institution



There are country specificl requirements for students from many countries actually - including

* Bangladesh
* Cameroon
* China
* France
* Germany
* India
* Nigeria
* Nepal
* Pakistan
* The Philippines
* The USA

There are many different reasons for this:
- sometimes relating to accreditation arrangements
- sometimes relating to the lower levels of some countries degrees where a BA only counts as a Swedish Högskolexamen rather than a full kandiatexamene
- sometimes where degrees are fully taught and do not have a Bachelor dissertation - which is a requirement for Masters course
- sometimes where there have been previous cases of fraudulent degree certificates being submitted there are specific checks carried out directly with issuing universities.


The aim is to make sure that applicants have sufficent prior knowledge and English ability to be able to cope with study at masters level. It is tough for staff, other students and not least the student themselves spending their own money - if they get onto a course with little chance of passing - for example when someone slips through who perhapsspeak/ cannot write sentences in English or has no idea how to write a seminar paper etc.
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Blazek
post 21.Jan.2009, 01:21 AM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 29.Nov.2007

QUOTE (Puffin)
The reason that you are having trouble is that the question is not as simple as it may appear to you as in Sweden you can opt to either study a whole degree programme or single courses of 4-5 weeks that can be counted towards a degree programme.

So while may universities offer a number of single courses usually up to 1 year in total- often put on for the benefit of exchange students - there are very few universities that offer complete bachelor degree programmes taught soley in English and most of these are IT or English degrees.

The schools that offer most programmes taught in English are Dalarna; Jönköping and Malmö

Blekinge
http://www.bth.se/eng/edu.nsf/pages/undergraduate-studies

Dalarna
http://www.du.se/Templates/EducationListin...;epslanguage=EN

Gothenburg - IT only
http://www.itufak.gu.se/english/education/programmes/

Jönköping
http://www.ihh.hj.se/doc/1602

Malmö
http://www.edu.mah.se/katalog/program/grund/inenglishonly

Mälardalen
http://www.mdh.se/education/international_...rograms_Courses

Umeå
http://www.utbildningar.umu.se/pluto/porta...glishProgrammes

Växjö
http://194.47.65.95/public/ViewProgramOcc...092&Lang=En


If you are interested in studying at any of this Universities it will be up to the admissions team what sort of credit you get for previous studies. Usually only previous subjects studied with a major are counted towards a BA/BSc in Sweden and some schools will only credit prior study that covers the same areas as their own courses.


Puffin, why are you so awesome all the time? So replete, pithy and well cited. I really appreciate your presence here.
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Furu
post 21.Jan.2009, 12:27 PM
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Joined: 16.Jan.2008

QUOTE (Puffin)
There are country specificl requirements for students from many countries actually - including

* Bangladesh
* Cameroon
* China
* France
* Germany
* India
* Nigeria
* Nepal
* Pakistan
* The Philippines
* The USA

There are many different reasons for this:
- sometimes relating to accreditation arrangements
- sometimes relating to the lower levels of some countries degrees where a BA only counts as a Swedish Högskolexamen rather than a full kandiatexamene
- sometimes where degrees are fully taught and do not have a Bachelor dissertation - which is a requirement for Masters course
- sometimes where there have been previous cases of fraudulent degree certificates being submitted there are specific checks carried out directly with issuing universities.


The aim is to make sure that applicants have sufficent prior knowledge and English ability to be able to cope with study at masters level. It is tough for staff, other students and not least the student themselves spending their own money - if they get onto a course with little chance of passing - for example when someone slips through who perhapsspeak/ cannot write sentences in English or has no idea how to write a seminar paper etc.


no I do not understand how someone from China got into a Masters level program and barely passes. They actually scored very well on TOEFL but do not understand a different between a Business and an Academic Degree.

This is when you start submitting Business type of papers when Academic work is required. i.e. submitting MBA style assignments in a Social Science department.
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Puffin
post 21.Jan.2009, 03:12 PM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

QUOTE (Furu)
no I do not understand how someone from China got into a Masters level program and barely passes. They actually scored very well on TOEFL but do not understand a different between a Business and an Academic Degree.

This is when you start submitting Business type of papers when Academic work is required. i.e. submitting MBA style assignments in a Social Science department.


No it is a tough situation when someone with insufficient knowledge gets onto a course. Staff want to support students as far as possible but it should not include teaching how to write sentences/paragraphs or how to formulate a question for an academic assignment at Masters level.
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Furu
post 21.Jan.2009, 07:01 PM
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Joined: 16.Jan.2008

QUOTE (Puffin)
No it is a tough situation when someone with insufficient knowledge gets onto a course. Staff want to support students as far as possible but it should not include teaching how to write sentences/paragraphs or how to formulate a question for an academic assignment at Masters level.


Every teacher or faculty member will help you learn if you want to learn or improve because that is what we are here for. But one must show efforts.

I wonder how they make it through TOEFL on the conversation part.
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