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Deserter Hemler Helped Deepest Plot to Sink USSRKept Alive False Claims Soviets Behind Hårsfjärden |
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Deserter David Hemler Helped 'False Flag' Plot To Sink Soviets At Sweden's Expense |
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Location: Stockholm Joined: 2.Aug.2011 |
Could you kindly provide a single paragraph summary ?
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In testing Olof Palme's trustworthiness, Washington staged a false attack around Hårsfjäden in early October 1982 in the hope that he would not take it seriously, but when he did - the Swedish Navy damaging a midget sub and its mother ship somewhat, and Stockholm sent Moscow a most provocative note about it Washington was most afraid that its provocation would leak out - what was intended to set the groundwork for ending the Cold War with the Soviets without a nuclear one. To keep the 'false flag' mission alive, the NSA sent Air Force spook David Hemler as an apparent deserter to Sweden in the hope that it would believe his claims that the USSR was truly behind it, and it did until Iran-Contra wanted to take further advantage of Palme by shipping more illegal arms through Sweden to Iran. When Palme stopped it, he became the target of the on-going mission rather than the country itself
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It's right here, tsarina.
The only correction of it I have learned since I posted it is that the Executive Intelligence Review is owned by Lyndon LaRouche, not Limbaugh. She's the blogger who has gone on endlessly about Hemler being some communist spy, especially the Stasi's, who came here to do Moscow's business. ![]() She apparently doesn't realize that if the KGB or the Stasi ever got their hands on him, he would have been imprisoned or more likely shot. |
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Joined: 20.Sep.2011 |
You mean he wasn't like any other of the 100s of USA deserters every year and this guy who had practically no experience and was still wet behind the ears was key?
Any real substantiated evidence? |
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011 |
So what You are saying is that this is not really your own work then?
![]() This poor man has been in hiding for 28 years after deserting from the Air Force, he was in the top 8 of the most wanted by the US Air Force!, he now has a wife and children in Swede, hasn't seen his own family let alone talk with them for 28 years, they thought he was dead... and now he is living with the possibility of being deported, especially since he obtained his original entry to Sweden by fraudulent means. Now, You publish your drivel in a number of forums, not just here!, saying he was a spy all along, with absolutely no proof whatsoever... wouldn't that add to the number of reasons to throw him out of the country? It certainly wouldn't help His case to stay! Did You even give Him chance to comment? Have You contacted His lawyer, Emma Persson at Borgström och Bodström advokatbyrå., since he is not currently doing public speaking, for comment? |
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As I quite clearly indicated, David Hemler was like Lee Harvey Oswald, and many other soldiers, still 'wet behind the ears,' who were sent off to the Soviet bloc on all kinds of missions because the CIA did not have the technical systems to do the job - what it later developed the capability to do.
Victor Marchetti disclosed in his The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence that ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) had a "..program which involved three dozen, maybe forty young men who were made to appear disenchanted, poor, American youths who had become turned off and wanted to see what communism was all about." (Quoted from Noel Tywman's Bloody Treason, p. 330.) When it came time to set up the Soviets for destruction at Sweden's expense, the CIA did not have the capability to do the same in Sweden, so the Air Force was obliged to come up with Hemler who is depicted in just the same way, as the patsy in the JFK assassination. In short, there were all kinds of false deserters/defectors like Oswald and Hemler but the crappy American government doesn't have the guts to admit the truth when the shit hits the fan, and they have to be disposed of or forgotten about. ![]() P. s. Regarding Yorkshireman's latest drivel, it is certainly my own work but I was given valuable assistance in its preparation which I am not at liberty to divulge, and I wouldn't touch anything connected to Thomas Bodström with a ten-foot pole. When he was Justice Minister, he avoided doing anything in helping solve the Palme murder, and I know it as a fact. |
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011 |
When it came time to set up the Soviets for destruction at Sweden's expense, the CIA did not have the capability to do the same in Sweden, so the Air Force was obliged to
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And where is Your proof for this with regards Hemler? Or is it just pure speculation on your part? For the 1st time with regards one of your stories, we have here in Sweden the subject, alive and kicking, surely such a well respected renowned author, professor with contacts in Säpo, could at least get a few questions and answers from Hemler? As for similarities between Hemler and Oswald! Jeez... ![]() Trow, the cold war ended at the same time You retired, but You haven't got with the program ![]() |
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The difference between Oswald and Hemler is not in who they were, and what they were involved in, but the outcome of the mission they were assisting.
Oswald was set up as JFK's assassin - once the double agent returned to Texas, and could not be rapidly hynoytized by Harvey's people in New Orleans to do the job - what Harvey arranged through Mafia-connected Jack Ruby to do on the spot. And when John Connally was shot too - the plan to blame it on Castro, and arrange the end of his regime could not go ahead - the Texas Governor was vowing to get those who had really double-crossed him, so Ruby had to simply dispose of Oswald himself. End of plot. Hemler was just forgotten about, once the plot to end the USSR was to be triggered by Palme's assassination, but plan to blame it on Moscow could not be arranged because Stig Bergling did not flee when he had the chance to do so. There was no plan to blame the shooting on the American deserter. End of plot. |
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So its purely you own work, with secret unknown assistance. So basically you have no proof or evidence of ANYTHING you wrote?
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Just more incredible garbage from you, Skogsbo, indicating that you have not even glanced at the article, as it is one of the most documented ones I have ever written.
It has at least 25 references, and more stuff that is based upon them or so detailed that it can be proved elsewhere. The basic thing I did with all the help I received is to point it in another direction, and hold Swedish military officials responsible, rather than elected politicians. You are just a most unhelpful spook, attempting to cover up for the Swedes, Americans, and Brits responsible for this most reckless, unnecessary fiasco. ![]() |
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Joined: 22.Nov.2011 |
Hemler was just forgotten about, once the plot to end the USSR was to be triggered by Palme's assassination, but plan to blame it on Moscow could not be arranged because S
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Not end of plot. Because you have not provided proof there was a plot in the 1st place. A rational thinker would say ... if I wanted to believe that Hemler was forgotten, one would not find His picture in a public forum as one of the top 8 most wanted people by the Air Force ... for 28 years! As I said earlier, here is a chance for You to shine Trow ... Hemler is here in Sweden, you should easily be able to to get some kind comment from His lawyer (name and company posted earlier) ... especially since Your contacts with Säpo should be able to help ... just to get them to comment on this story? ...or are you worried that they also have chance, since they are in Sweden, that they take legal actions against You? Would Your proof, that we havent seen, stand-up in a court of law? |
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Of course, there was a plot against the Palme government - some of the military claiming that the statsminister had not been vigorous enough in repelling Soviet submarine intrusions, letting a damaged one escape to the East during the Hårsfjärden incident, and the statsminister allegedly planning to sell out the
country's independence in April 1986 when he had a scheduled meeting with Gorbachev when, in fact, Palme had done more than the rebels had expected. Of course, the Air Force had to keep complaining about Hemler's absence - what everyone, but those in the know knew, suspected meant that he had gone off to join the communists. Not going to waste my time talking to Hemler's lawyers, as they will only deny the 'false flag' mission. Have long been ready to test my black conspiracy theory about the plot which assassinated Palme. |
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Of course, there was a plot against the Palme government - some of the military claiming that the statsminister had not been vigorous enough in repelling Soviet submarine intr
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Again! You try to divert attention away onto another track... Let's stick to the Hemler question. Of course, the Air Force had to keep complaining about Hemler's absence - what everyone, but those in the know knew, suspected meant that he had gone off to join the communists. You claimed he was forgotten!, which was it Trow ... forgotten about or highlighted (complaining)? And let's be honest here joining communists is your made up theory. We are all well aware of those times, and it is clear that whenever either side got a defector they highly publicised their victories. It was clear from the very start that he did not defect, since the Russians didn't display him, he disappeared, deserted! Even his family thought he was dead. Sorry Trow, it's utter rubbish. Not going to waste my time talking to Hemler's lawyers, as they will only deny the 'false flag' mission. Of-course ... that is the defence for all Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists. If it is true, they would deny it, if it isn't true they of-course deny it ... it wouldn't make any difference to You since rational thinking does not apply. And the risk is they provide real evidence that your story is total fabrication, let alone other possible actions! Cold War is over ... |
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