(edit title) Visa/Permit/Citizenship Support Group A quarantine for those of us losing our minds Options

[Alysious]

Yes I have had this. I sent an email saying that I thought our marriage was registered in Sweden but it was actually not registered. They emailed back saying that I had to register with Skatteverket. I'll try to find the email MV sent me.

[Alysious]

Has anyone come across that MV asking the marriage to be registered in Skatteverket (Tax Agency) even before your partner is granted visa?\I have asked MV for clarificati ... (show full quote)

Has anyone come across that MV asking the marriage to be registered in Skatteverket (Tax Agency) even before your partner is granted visa?\
I have asked MV for clarification, but no answer yet. Just wondering if you guys have come across similar situations. ... (hide full quote)

Ok I thought the email was long than this but this is MV email I was sent.

Thank you for your email

When you make an application to move to Sweden, and you are married, the marriage must be registered with the Tax Agency in Sweden.

[Alysious]

Okay I may have already asked this - or someone else has, but searching replies is hard and I've forgotten what the response was as I'm going a little crazy waiting for MV.
So in my effort to get to Sweden on time for my husbands job and kids starting school in August.
I am wondering if anyone with kids has gone to Sweden on a holiday (I don't need a Visa for Sweden) then before the 3 month Schengen time is up, apply for another 3 month extension to stay as a tourist, due to compelling personal reasons, for me that would be young Swedish children (my husband and kids have citizenship - I'm Australian). I don't want to break any rule but I also think it is unreasonable to be separated from my children when they start school and the waiting times for residency are so long. I know everyone is in their own personal hell waiting, but this is my one. My residency would most likely come during the second 3 months that I am in Sweden so I would leave and stay with friends in Norway.
Any ideas are welcome. I'm sure I am a broken record asking the same questions every couple of months. Cheers

[fincastles]

Mjennin2

Please add us to you spreadsheet.

Applied from: United States
Submission date: Aug 14, 2015
Interview Invitation: n/a - waiting

Source of info: The Local

Notes: I'm a US citizen, married Swedish wife in Sweden 1980, I lived/worked in Sweden 1979 - 1986, we moved to the United States 1986

I'd like to add a suggestion for the spreadsheet since it's growing in size. Please lock/freeze the headers so it's easier to read while scrolling.

http://www.economicsnetwork.ac.uk/tips/freezepane

Thanks for the work you do.

[mjennin2]

Mjennin2Please add us to you spreadsheet. Applied from: United StatesSubmission date: Aug 14, 2015Interview Invitation: n/a - waitingSource of info: ... (show full quote)

Mjennin2

Please add us to you spreadsheet.

Applied from: United States
Submission date: Aug 14, 2015
Interview Invitation: n/a - waiting

Source of info: The Local

Notes: I'm a US citizen, married Swedish wife in Sweden 1980, I lived/worked in Sweden 1979 - 1986, we moved to the United States 1986

I'd like to add a suggestion for the spreadsheet since it's growing in size. Please lock/freeze the headers so it's easier to read while scrolling.

http://www.economicsnetwork.ac.uk/tips/freezepane

Thanks for the work you do. ... (hide full quote)

Hi fin! I will certainly add you right now! As for freezing cells in the Google Sheets doc, they already are :/ The problem is that it doesn't translate that way as an embedded chart on my blog. I have purchased a WordPress site however, and I'm going through the laborious process of teaching myself how to port all my content over from Blogger to WordPress. Hopefully, once that is done in the next few months, that will resolve the issue - or at least I hope there will be other embedded chart options that I can use that will function a lot more cleanly. <3

[mjennin2]

I do have one lingering question about the spreadsheet though - the more people who could weigh in, the better.

Is it best to have the sheet as it currently is - sorted strictly by application date - or would it be more useful / interesting to have it sorted by Date of Decision (and if the case hasn't gotten a decision yet, it would then be sorted by date of application).

I feel both views are useful, and am still erring toward how it currently is. But happy to receive the input if anyone feels strongly about it?

[abbyrovenn]

Ok I thought the email was long than this but this is MV email I was sent.Thank you for your emailWhen you make an application to move to Sweden, and you are married, the marr ... (show full quote)

Ok I thought the email was long than this but this is MV email I was sent.

Thank you for your email

When you make an application to move to Sweden, and you are married, the marriage must be registered with the Tax Agency in Sweden. ... (hide full quote)

Thanks @Alysious for the info. I have sent the docs to Skatteverket and given the reference number back to my case officer. Lets see how MV react now. Keeping the fingers crossed.

[get_a_lawyer]

Okay I may have already asked this - or someone else has, but searching replies is hard and I've forgotten what the response was as I'm going a little crazy waiting fo ... (show full quote)

Okay I may have already asked this - or someone else has, but searching replies is hard and I've forgotten what the response was as I'm going a little crazy waiting for MV.
So in my effort to get to Sweden on time for my husbands job and kids starting school in August.
I am wondering if anyone with kids has gone to Sweden on a holiday (I don't need a Visa for Sweden) then before the 3 month Schengen time is up, apply for another 3 month extension to stay as a tourist, due to compelling personal reasons, for me that would be young Swedish children (my husband and kids have citizenship - I'm Australian). I don't want to break any rule but I also think it is unreasonable to be separated from my children when they start school and the waiting times for residency are so long. I know everyone is in their own personal hell waiting, but this is my one. My residency would most likely come during the second 3 months that I am in Sweden so I would leave and stay with friends in Norway.
Any ideas are welcome. I'm sure I am a broken record asking the same questions every couple of months. Cheers ... (hide full quote)

Hi Al
I was in the same position as you. I had to scramble and get a job and therefore I got a work permit in Sweden. I received the work permit very quickly, less than one month. I placed a fair bit of pressure on my employer. I was under a huge amount of stress, and I honestly believe I would not have come here if I had have known the immigration chaos currently occurring in Sweden. I think they processed me quickly due to the close ties but mainly due to the fact I had a job thereby won't increase the unemployment stats. If you could get a job, teaching ENglish or something, that's the easiest and quickest way.

In relation to your circumstance - you have already applied for residence based on close ties to Sweden from Australia. According to the Alien's Act, The main rule states that you may not enter Sweden until the permit application is granted. However, exceptions apply.

I rang the Swedish embassy in Canberra and they made it very clear that the Swedish courts have not interpreted the exceptions widely. Exceptions based on 'children's best interests' have been narrowly interpreted. You can review Swedish court decisions and we found two cases one the mother was schizophrenic and the other some other 'drastic' circumstance.

The embassy staff gave an example where one Australian father was denied travelling as a tourist to Sweden when his father-in-law died to spend time with his grieving children and wife, as he had a residence permit application in progress.

So you are not supposed to enter Sweden whilst residency permit in process. Please get your husband to read the Alien's Act so you really understand it.
One solution may be to get a medical certificate/psych report for yourself or your children and push that on to MV or an immigration lawyer.

[Alysious]

So you are not supposed to enter Sweden whilst residency permit in process. Please get your husband to read the Alien's Act so you really understand it.One solution may be ... (show full quote)

So you are not supposed to enter Sweden whilst residency permit in process. Please get your husband to read the Alien's Act so you really understand it.
One solution may be to get a medical certificate/psych report for yourself or your children and push that on to MV or an immigration lawyer. ... (hide full quote)

Thanks heaps. My son is seeing a psychologist and suffers from separation anxiety and that is while I am living in the same country. I can't imagine how he would be if we were separated by half a planet. I will ask the psychologist to write us a letter. I wouldn't have imagined that Sweden needed a lot of English teachers. Gosh I doubt I would be qualified for that. I am a registered nurse and I could see if there is a way for me to even get something that way. Does unpaid employment count, like volunteering as a health assistant? I used to be an assistant nurse and am happy to help people shower if thats what they need. Unfortunately my Swedish is not good enough for me to be employed as anything other that an English speaker. I am also in email contact with Norway and Germany, trying to see if either of them will give me a Visa.

[Alysious]

Well, I've done all I can.
I have asked Norway and Germany if they will grant me an extended Schegen Holiday Visa (I have ties to both countries). I imagine they will say NO. I also asked my Swedish Embassy about one - which I'm 100% sure they will say NO. But I have tried my best. Like I've said before, I won't break any rules and I think going to Sweden and then asking to say longer would be breaking them, but I have asked the right people for permission, so who am I to argue if they actually grant me one - they wont. But if Norway would grant me a Visa that would be awesome. My husbands family only live 2hrs away over the border (I'd live with friends in Norway). I know Norway will say 'Sorry we can't help you' but I feel better for trying absolutely everything. So that's it for me and my crazy plans. The ball is now in my husbands employers court. I can't imagine there is anything more I could do, but just wait like everyone else in this immigration purgatory.

[get_a_lawyer]

Hi Al,

You wouldn't necessarily be breaking the rules. Exceptions apply in the Aliens Act.

It's all about how the courts interpret what the law means, and to who those exceptions apply.

I can't find the exact section of the Aliens Act in English but on MV web page it states:
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If you have or are expecting children in Sweden

If you are in Sweden without a valid residence permit, you may in certain cases receive a new residence permit without having to leave the country. This applies to anyone who is the parent and guardian of a child who has a residence permit or who is a Swedish citizen, and those who have or are expecting children with a person who is a Swedish citizen or who has a permanent residence permit. You must also live with the child.

For this it is required that

you fulfil the conditions for a residence permit to live with someone in Sweden
it is clear that you would have received a residence permit if you had submitted your application before coming to Sweden and
it is not reasonable to demand that you return to your home country to apply.
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You would fulfill the first two conditions.
Given your son's mental condition, it is not in his best interest to be separated from you, even if you were in Norway or Germany.
I think it's good you have applied for those countries as it highlights how absurd the situation is to MV and THe Immigration Minister of the current ALiens ACt combined with the governments policy of prioritizing asylum applications.
The govt needs to change the policy or amend the Act so that if the first two conditions apply, you can await your resident permit within Sweden.

Anyhow, if I were you I'd write a non-emotional, clear letter stating facts and what you have done so far. Include doctor report (this is your key, this is what makes you an exception). State that you believe the Aliens Act would allow you to enter as it is not in your Swedish citizen child's best interests to be separated from you, especially with the upheaval of moving countries, languages and new schools.

Request permission to stay in Sweden based on your son's best interests.

Keep up the fight.

Your children have a right to their mother!!!!!!

[Alysious]

Hi Al,. You wouldn't necessarily be breaking the rules. Exceptions apply in the Aliens Act.. It's all about how the courts interpret what the law means, and to who those exceptions apply.

Thanks
I kind of feel that if I hadn't ever applied from Australia (which is definitely the right thing to do) but if I hadn't, and we moved and I applied in Sweden I totally would have been allowed to stay. That being said, we did and still are going about things the right way. I simply can not convince my husband to employ an immigration lawyer until he has his contract with his employer all finalised (negotiating salary, contract etc) I guess that is a smart move, but ??. Your advise has made me feel a lot more confident about what to highlight. I never thought about telling them the lengths I am going to in order to be with my kids. Of course we don't have to move to Sweden, but my whole family is Swedish, except me. Plus the University would have to cancel the course he would be teaching this year if I can't come. I know it's not the most important thing in the world, but I actually do care about messing up a hundred or so University students year/future. I'll write that non-emotional and purely factual letter, whenever I have written to the embassy or MV my husband has edited all emotive language from it. I bet he still edits my factual letter.

[Alysious]

Just to let anyone interested know.
Norway and Germany both denied me a long stay Visa (well I knew they would) but they were so helpful and actually seemed to care about my situation. Norway and Germany both gave suggestions for how I could try and work things out, none that will work for my family, but it was nice of them to try. Still the aim is to get to Sweden, but I guess they have bigger issues than me.

[ChocOwl]

For those who understand Swedish... there is a bunch of articles on DN ?sikt about anh?riginvandring and the current long waiting times.
http://asikt.dn.se/asikt/debatt/migrations...-fran-varandra/